{"id":4285,"date":"2020-10-13T09:53:00","date_gmt":"2020-10-13T15:53:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/?p=4285"},"modified":"2020-10-13T10:01:48","modified_gmt":"2020-10-13T16:01:48","slug":"punishment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/?p=4285","title":{"rendered":"Punishment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Why\u00a0 are we always so quick to want to punish?<\/p>\n<p>I watched a school board meeting last night. They were arguing over policy and before they even had it set a couple of them wanted to decide on the punishment.<\/p>\n<p>They were eager to chose a punishment for children starting at kindergarten!<\/p>\n<p>What do they think punishing a small child is going to accomplish?<\/p>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"ap2v0-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"ap2v0-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"ap2v0-0-0\">With rewards we can be sure that actions that are rewarded will be repeated.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"4qgfh-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"4qgfh-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4qgfh-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"73jr1-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"73jr1-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"73jr1-0-0\">Actions that are punished though, we never know what we have actually taught. We think we\u2019ve put a stop to the behavior. We think they will think twice about doing that again. Punishment is very rewarding to the punisher. Instant gratification because it puts a stop to the behavior.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"6vpbi-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6vpbi-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6vpbi-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"3dea5-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"3dea5-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"3dea5-0-0\">For the moment.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"duvlg-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"duvlg-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"duvlg-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"10vf8-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"10vf8-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"10vf8-0-0\">The one being punished may have learned something completely different. Often it is that the one doing the punishment is mean, they\u2019re bad, they should be avoided. It can be that they should be careful not to repeat the behavior where they might be caught. Sometimes it is that they themselves are bad, not worthy, not good enough.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"15r3-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"15r3-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"15r3-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"b6ja5-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"b6ja5-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"b6ja5-0-0\">These are bad enough things to be teaching animals. Why would we want to teach that to our children?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"4iq23-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"4iq23-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"4iq23-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"1uipb-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"1uipb-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"1uipb-0-0\">Before jumping to punishment we should always look for other options. Can we change the situation that lead up to the problem? Can we encourage behavior that makes the undesired behavior unlikely or impossible? Can we educate people who are pushing for punishment?<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"amitn-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"amitn-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"amitn-0-0\">\u00a0<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"\" data-block=\"true\" data-editor=\"392bs\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">I realize horses are harder to train than children. I have both and wish children were as easy as horses. I understand the difficulty. I don\u2019t understand this as a solution.<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">Not punishing behavior doesn&#8217;t mean letting animals or children run wild. Boundaries are still set. We still expect behaviors we desire to be performed. <\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">Especially in this case I refuse to call behaviors that are punished &#8216;bad&#8217;. Neither animals nor small children have any concept of &#8216;bad&#8217; they are simply doing what comes naturally to them. <\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">We are the ones calling them &#8216;bad&#8217;. How can the problem with teaching a small child they are &#8216;bad&#8217; not be blindingly obvious? <\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">Isn&#8217;t it better to teach them they are good? To seek out things we can be proud of them for?<br \/>\n<\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">We find what we seek in life. If we go around looking for bad things to punish then that is what we will find. <\/span><\/div>\n<div class=\"_1mf _1mj\" data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\"><span data-offset-key=\"6b266-0-0\">If we look for the good&#8230;<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2020\/10\/IMG_20200924_104057.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-medium wp-image-4286\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2020\/10\/IMG_20200924_104057-225x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2020\/10\/IMG_20200924_104057-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2020\/10\/IMG_20200924_104057.jpg 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 225px) 100vw, 225px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Why\u00a0 are we always so quick to want to punish? 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