{"id":763,"date":"2016-02-03T15:13:19","date_gmt":"2016-02-03T22:13:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.pumpkinvinefarms.com\/?p=763"},"modified":"2016-02-03T15:13:19","modified_gmt":"2016-02-03T22:13:19","slug":"a-little-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/?p=763","title":{"rendered":"A Little History"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Always nice to have on a horse that comes to you without one. Not his personally, unfortunately. We will probably never know exactly where he came from and how he got to be where he was. But we can find his family history easily enough.<\/p>\n<p>Of course <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allbreedpedigree.com\/rusty+radiance\">All Breed Pedigree<\/a> gives a good starting place, with some pictures and the occasional bit of info, but it&#8217;s such a little bit. (Even though I must admit I run any horse I am looking at through the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.allbreedpedigree.com\/index.php?h=rusty+radiance&amp;g=9&amp;query_type=photos&amp;search_bar=photos&amp;inbred=Standard&amp;x2=n&amp;username=&amp;password=&amp;x=0&amp;y=0\">All Breed Pedigree photos<\/a> test, yes he passes. With flying colors) And looking there today I see that he goes to Chingadero three times! I have always thought he was cool. And I see Winterset back there too. He&#8217;s a favorite of mine, absolutely gorgeous.\u00a0 And Warhawk, I was just looking at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/photo.php?fbid=809029529208682&amp;set=pcb.809030415875260&amp;type=3&amp;theater\">a great picture of him <\/a>holding a calf for doctoring. Not sure there are too many good western Morgans he doesn&#8217;t go back to eventually.<\/p>\n\n\t\t<style>\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 {\n\t\t\t\tmargin: auto;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-item {\n\t\t\t\tfloat: left;\n\t\t\t\tmargin-top: 10px;\n\t\t\t\ttext-align: center;\n\t\t\t\twidth: 33%;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 img {\n\t\t\t\tborder: 2px solid #cfcfcf;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t#gallery-1 .gallery-caption {\n\t\t\t\tmargin-left: 0;\n\t\t\t}\n\t\t\t\/* see gallery_shortcode() in wp-includes\/media.php *\/\n\t\t<\/style>\n\t\t<div id='gallery-1' class='gallery galleryid-763 gallery-columns-3 gallery-size-medium'><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Flyhawkwintervignette.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"190\" height=\"285\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Flyhawkwintervignette.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-769\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-769'>\n\t\t\t\tFlyhawk\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/winterset-copy.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"237\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/winterset-copy-300x237.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-768\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/winterset-copy-300x237.jpg 300w, https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/winterset-copy.jpg 758w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-768'>\n\t\t\t\tWinterset\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon landscape'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/midnitesun.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"242\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/midnitesun-300x242.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-767\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/midnitesun-300x242.jpg 300w, https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/midnitesun.jpg 303w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-767'>\n\t\t\t\tMidnight Sun \n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/chingadero.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"265\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/chingadero-265x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-766\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/chingadero-265x300.jpg 265w, https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/chingadero.jpg 302w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 265px) 100vw, 265px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-766'>\n\t\t\t\tChingadero\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Californio.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"272\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Californio-272x300.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-765\" srcset=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Californio-272x300.jpg 272w, https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/Californio.jpg 370w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 272px) 100vw, 272px\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-765'>\n\t\t\t\tCalifornio\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><dl class='gallery-item'>\n\t\t\t<dt class='gallery-icon portrait'>\n\t\t\t\t<a href='https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/tiolalodicknelsen200w.jpg' title=\"\" data-rl_title=\"\" class=\"rl-gallery-link\" data-rl_caption=\"\" data-rel=\"lightbox-gallery-1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"222\" src=\"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/19\/2016\/01\/tiolalodicknelsen200w.jpg\" class=\"attachment-medium size-medium\" alt=\"\" aria-describedby=\"gallery-1-764\" \/><\/a>\n\t\t\t<\/dt>\n\t\t\t\t<dd class='wp-caption-text gallery-caption' id='gallery-1-764'>\n\t\t\t\tTia Lalo\n\t\t\t\t<\/dd><\/dl><br style=\"clear: both\" \/>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>But those are so far back, with the exception of Californio, that they only mean so much. Who are his more immediate ancestors?<\/p>\n<p>I\u00a0 can&#8217;t find anything about his dam on the internets. His grand sire on his mothers side though, Baptiste Jay Chayadow, is standing at stud in Oregon at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dragoonmorgans.com\/jay--cremello-morgan-stallion-at-stud.html\">Dragoon Morgans. <\/a>They say he throws larger colts than his 14.3, that&#8217;s holds with my theory the Rusty is going to get tall. Of course I don&#8217;t know any thing about his dam so that theory is still unfounded. Jays sire, Rusty&#8217;s great grand sire, stood at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bellecouleemorgans.com\/Home\/geldings\">Belle Coulee Morgans<\/a> in Canada and sounds like a great all around horse.<\/p>\n<p>His grand dam on that side is from Marana farms in Alberta Canada. They imported her sire from Iowa and have one of her half sisters, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.maranafarms.com\/mares\">DM Lords Melissa<\/a>, still as a brood mare.<\/p>\n<p>On his sires side, the sire is also invisible internet wise, his grand dam is from the prolific and still very busy, training and show wise, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bridlewoodmorgans.com\/\">Bridlewood farm<\/a>. Including training at least one other horse acquired through Forever Morgans, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.solitude-morgan-rescue.org\/our-horses\/\">El-Terra at Solitude Morgan Rescue<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Dogwoods Golden Chief, Grand sire on his sires side, I was able to find passing mention of in an article about the great <a href=\"https:\/\/www.morganhorse.com\/upload\/photos\/206COLORCalifornio2008.pdf\">Californio<\/a>. But only as an also sired by.<\/p>\n<p>So what is the point of this? Other than getting to look at all the beautiful old pictures of Morgans? I really thought I would get to find out really fun stuff about his parents and grand parents. But no. I couldn&#8217;t even find them.<\/p>\n<p>Instead it made me think about the importance of doing something with breeding stock. Having a horse with the proper equipment is not a good enough reason to breed! I fully understand wanting to breed your beloved back yard, trail riding, baby sit the kids mare. But. The stud should be well proven at least. Would Rusty have ended up in the kill pen if someone could have looked at his papers and said &#8220;Hey he&#8217;s by so and so who won something. I know him.&#8221;?\u00a0 Not to say mares shouldn&#8217;t be well proven too.<\/p>\n<p>Rusty is royally and beautifully bred. Generations ago. I&#8217;m sure the more recent horses were great as well but where is the proof? If not proven they should at least be well promoted. With the internet there is no reason any breeding horses name should not be easily googleable. It&#8217;s our responsibility to our horses and their offspring to give them the best chance possible.<\/p>\n<p>Rusty was bred for color, I&#8217;m guessing with two palomino parents, and when he turned out to be the one in four chance of a sorrel he didn&#8217;t\u00a0 have great and recently proven horses to fall back on. Look where that got him.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Always nice to have on a horse that comes to you without one. Not his personally, unfortunately. We will probably never know exactly where he came from and how he&hellip; <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2,3,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-763","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-clicker-training","category-coyote","category-rusty"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/763","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=763"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/763\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=763"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=763"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pumpkinvinefarms.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=763"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}